Getting a flanged tube thingy made

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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby russtik » Mon May 08, 2017 4:27 pm

jeffw wrote:Isn't it cheaper to get a set of longer trumpets?

Trumpets that long don't fit inside a sausage filter and if they did the filter would foul my steering column.
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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby jeffw » Mon May 08, 2017 5:13 pm

If you run these extensions the filter will hit the steering column ? You can get filter backing plate extensions

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http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorspor ... der-airbox

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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby russtik » Mon May 08, 2017 5:22 pm

If I fit a backing plate directly onto the Jenveys the filter will foul the steering column. If I fit a backing box directly onto the Jenveys the box will foul the steering column. I need to bypass the steering column with tubes or horns. If those tubes end in a flange that will allow me to fit a backing plate past the fouling area (and consequently have a nice long induction length).

Make sense?
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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby Fury1630 » Mon May 08, 2017 7:14 pm

Would it be possible to get four long trumpets, then make up a back plate that could be welded to the cone of the trumpets at the distance you want? The back plate could be water-jet cut or lasered for accuracy, you'd just need to bolt the trumpets down to (say) some plywood, to keep them aligned for the welder.

It'd be a little more complex to set up, but much more accurate once it's made.

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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby russtik » Tue May 09, 2017 9:55 am

I've seen a BDA mechanical injection setup where the horns had some tabs welded on top and bottom which bolted/riveted onto a filter backplate. So while I could do something like that it seems like more hassle than getting hold of some spacer tubes to bolt in place, especially as I don't currently own a set of horns in an ideal length.

I found something on eBay like what I want shipped from Taiwan for £85.73 a set, but they're not long enough:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/45mm-Velocity-Stack-Trumpet-Air-Box-spacer-80mm-ITB-Weber-Dellorto-DHLA-DCOE-/272273971242
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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby Fury1630 » Tue May 09, 2017 11:15 am

They look from the photos to be machined, so they'll have the bar in stock, contact them through Ebay & ask if they can make them longer - shouldn't be a problem. They should be strong enough & they are sealed with an O-ring, so engineering wise it's the "proper" solution.

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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby russtik » Wed May 10, 2017 6:54 am

I asked if they could make longer ones to which the reply was

"Sorry no but you can just stack them together"

Oh can I? At twice the price yeah :roll: Back to the drawing board...
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Re: Getting a flanged tube thingy made

Postby Fury1630 » Wed May 10, 2017 7:18 am

russtik wrote:"Sorry no but you can just stack them together"


No you can't, that would result in two O-rings touching where the join was. They obviously don't make them, just sell them. Best avoided by the sound of it. Pity

In a few years you'll be able to get them in ALM (Additive Layer Manufacturing - 3D printing in metal). Just last week I was fitting ALM parts at work & you would never know they weren't cast, machined surfaces were bright & polished - but the cost is prohibitive at the moment :evil:


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